University of Haifa
Center of
Critical Pedagogy
University of Haifa
International Institute on Peace Education 2008
"Critical Pedagogy: Educating for Justice and Peace"
Public Plenary
(free and open to the public – all are invited to attend)
Thursday 31.7.2008
Mizpor hall, Migdal Eshkol
University of Haifa, Israel
Public Schools and Teacher Education:
Peace Education and Critical Pedagogy in a Formal Framework
** 10:30-11:00 coffee and reception with IIPE participants **
** 11:00 – 13:15 plenary panel **
Moderator: Irene Banias (Bogazici University, Turkey)
Faisal Azaiza
University of Haifa (Israel)
"Attitudes Toward Bilingual Education"
Mireia Uranga
Peace Education Consultant-Freelancer (Spain)
"Human Rights and Peace Education Program of the Basque Estate Ministry of Education"
Colins Imoh
Centre for Human Development & Social Transformation ( (Nigeria)
"Peace Education in Marginalized Communities in Nigeria"
Galia Zalmanson Levi
Center of Critical Pedagogy, Seminar Hakibutzim (Israel)
"Education for Social Justice, Environmental Justice and Peace Education Program at Seminar Hakibutzim"
Tuesday, July 22, 2008
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You know what I don’t get about Jews?
I would destroy a whole city, heck I would destroy whole nations to protect my family, my friends, and the fellow citizens of my country and while I would have some regret most of that would quickly dissipate.
Yet there is so much hand-wringing among you Jews about what to do about an enemy dedicated to your extermination.
In one way I guess one could see that as noble. It could be seen as the height of ethical behavior for a people to say they wouldn’t stoop so low as to adopt the behavior of their enemy or even come close to doing so even if it means the destruction of themselves as a people.
But what kind of example is that? There were these people called the Jews, they were extremely ethical and they no longer exist because of that.
Don’t a people to be a moral light to the world have to well, first exist?
Survival is the first requirement of any people, any nation. All else is secondary. When threatened, a people, a nation needs to do whatever it takes to ensure their survival. Whatever it takes. It needs to embark on for a lack of a better term a time of “necessary cruelty”. A time where it puts away its ideals for the sake of its survival. After all if it doesn’t survive then neither does its ideals.
Someday, Israel will be in a place where it can afford to take “the high moral ground”. Someday Israel will be able to treat all people equally and justly with the dignity they deserve. But not now. You haven’t “earned” that yet. You haven’t gone through your period of “necessary cruelty”.
You know the people in the West, those who criticize you? Canada, the United States, England, they all went through a period of “necessary cruelty” some even more times than one. When their survival as a people was at stake they did the cruelest of things. They had to. If they hadn’t they wouldn’t exist as they do now. So now they can afford to be all morally superior as they have eliminated the threats that necessitates the actions that the Jews must do now to survive. But at one time they all did such actions and worse. Each and every one of them.
The choice any people have is this: will you allow yourself to be as a people subjugated to others, led into concentration camps, perhaps destroyed as a people, wiped out as a whole people or will you take your destiny in your own hands and fight back doing whatever it takes to survive?
In the end, no matter how it might seem, there is no nobility in a group of people just laying down and dying no matter the reason. It’s just national suicide not to do whatever it takes even if it goes against the higher principles of the society; even if you must be crueler than the enemy to win. For only after the threats to your existence are removed can you really build that idealistic society you want for your children and their children.
Besides if you just lie down and die against and evil force that just increases the evil in the world. That is kind of what it means that it is better to do evil than be evil. You must do evil to ensure that those who actually are evil don’t prevail.
Two thousand years ago a Roman citizen could walk across the face of the known world free of the fear of molestation. He could walk across the earth unharmed, cloaked only in the words Civis Romanis I am a Roman citizen. So great was the retribution of Rome, universally understood as certain, should any harm befall even one of its citizens.
Where was Ehud Goldwasser’s protection, or Eldad Regev’s? Where is the retribution for the families and where is the warning to the rest of the world that Israelis shall walk this earth unharmed, lest the clenched fist of the most mighty military force in the history of the Middle East comes crashing down on your house!? In other words, what the hell is the Israeli government doing here?
Israel needs to do whatever it takes to ensure that for its citizens. It needs to stand up for the worth of each and every Jew and that will only happen when people fear what happens when they don’t respect the worth of Jews and their right to exist.
NEVER AGAIN!
hey thats intense
thank u for taking the time to voice your opinion but i think u touch on a few issues that i will highlight..
(a) the balance sheet of survival
first of all what is survival.. physical - cultural - moral etc.. what does it cost to survive.. to what extent does the end justify the means..
none of the answers are necessarily as obvious as our instincts may suggest..
(b) the inevitable "hypocracy"..
as you say every nation has gone through its formative stages in one way or another.. some of these have involved very high moral expenses.. but - notwithstanding the apparent double standards i think it is good that we sustain criticism.. just because others displayed immense cruelty (eg the white settlers of australia who wiped out most of the aboriginal tribes and for that matter continue to run a concentration camp system for refugees - refusing even to integrate children and women into society during the waiting periods - that sometimes last many years) doesnt mean that we shouldnt have the privilege of additional moral scrutiny.. it is an asset to have the benefit of the eyes of the world - no matter how blind they may appear to be most of the time..
(c) israel's duties
there is a lot of media talk about international law in the context of israel's relationship with arab populations.. however rarely do we hear anything about israel's domestic international law obligations ie to protect its citizens etc..
the misuse of international legal concepts is rife..
i must admit that the voice of your comment is rather harsh but i do agree with some of your thoughts..
Hi
The seminar seems to be sooo interesting really I wish I could come..
Lirun,will you take part there?
hi yara
no i probably wont.. but if you know anyone that would be interested i encourage you to let them know :)
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